老婆和她的玩伴总在看剧,我也耳濡目染了一些。
经过我的询问和她的解答,我发现特别丧的剧都是美国人的。
我很奇怪美国人的品味,难道真的是过得太好了吗?
也许是爱看这些丧剧的美国人过得太好了,而过得不好的人并不喜欢看?
也许是过得的确不好的人才喜欢,而过得好的人并不热捧吧。
我觉得事情的真相很可能是这样:过得不错,但总要给自己找点麻烦的人,更可能觉得这个剧好。
其实这个剧给我最突出的感受,是它很像卡佛的小说风格。
它介于两个卡佛之间。
最初出版并走红的卡佛,是那个被编辑改过的卡佛,可以称作“编辑卡佛”,后来又出版了未编辑的卡佛,我们称它为“真卡佛”。
这个动画剧的风格和品味,恰好处在编辑卡佛和真卡佛之间。
灰色得没有编辑卡佛彻底,诙谐多过真卡佛,但比真卡佛沉重。
它们的核心气质是一样的,就是美国人陷于生计的内容贫乏的生活泥潭,还有没人帮助的糟糕的两性关系和亲子关系。
先说两性关系和情感方面。
在所有的美剧和卡佛的小说里,美国人的家庭关系的确和我们很不一样。
一个人从他父母身边长大,一般就会脱离出来,所有的伤害都没有解决,只是掐断,然后他就组建他自己的两性关系,而且往往没能比他的父母高明。
简直毫无提高,就是按照烂摊子的样子制造新的烂摊子。
这种剧也是一样。
还有就是美国人的物质生活。
之前读了一本考试用书,工程经济,里面讲了一些公司运作、财务管理方面的原理。
我不得不注意到,公司管理的所有原则最终都会产生同一个后果,就是争分夺秒,把人的精力榨干、逼死。
想到这些知识经验都该源自伟大富强的美利坚,美国人民的生活状况可见一斑。
这个剧里表现得毫无差异。
但是我很不喜欢这个剧。
角色在剧里根本没有尝试解决问题。
有些人说角色在成长,在逐渐地改善自己的处境。
在我看来,那些改进之处都是不痛不痒的。
说他们有改善的人,好像忘了一个事实:如果角色的内涵和定位变了,就没法继续往下编了,就没法连载了,之前爱看的人就不会爱看,这可是商业规律啊。
而且我要说,肯定他们的进步的人,同样也不能改进自己的生活。
可能他们就搞不清楚什么才叫改进。
翻开两个卡佛的小说,我们读到的都是烂摊子,主人公收拾不了的烂摊子。
那是一种沉溺,彻底的失败。
这个马人也毫无指望。
爱看马人的,觉得感同身受的,可能也毫无指望。
何以爱看?
自己的苦恼被搬上了银幕,想象着它能被很多人看到甚至理解,就获得了一种安慰。
我不否定这种安慰的积极,但是,然后呢?
无所谓了,继续上班赚钱、然后游荡、喝酒、聊天、回家在床上翻来覆去睡不着呗。
从S1到现在的S5,一直在追BoJack Horseman。
BoJack Horseman S5刚上映的当天,我一口气刷到了E10,整个过程从满怀期待到渐渐麻木,那种很颓的麻木。
我不是个专业的剧评人,无法从各个层面去分析剧情的结构,也不懂什么专业名词,全靠意识流与共鸣去欣赏。
我知道按照以往套路,E11一定会发生什么很丧的事,所以停下来调整心态。
可当我以为我做好准备点开播放时,那一集还是让我感受到了痛苦。
整部剧荒诞的格调与现实撞击在一起,在BoJack爬上楼梯看着巨大的Philbert,我突然被这似曾相识的无奈重创心头,虽然最后一集的结局与s4的结局同样疗愈,但我始终记得那个茫然无助的眼神。
看完后,我翻了翻影评,大部分人都在称赞E06是神作,将整季拉高了好几个档次,我倒觉得还好,反正看到大家还是一样的丧,就放心了。
二刷BoJack Horseman S5是突然的,由于之前状态不好,所以一刷的时候很多感觉都很模糊,只记得本季是由BoJack拍摄一部新剧《Philbert》开始的。
当二刷完成后,想把心里面的冠军集搬给E02。
她除了丰富Diane的人物性格以外,也运用了非常厉害的手法,将看似独立的故事毫无痕迹地渗透到了后面的剧情,即使没有埋下伏笔。
Diane当之无愧成为了这一季的最佳配角。
甚至在主线内核的表达作用比BoJack更为重要。
剖析性别平权,深入挖掘友谊,质问施暴者内心的内疚与痛苦难道应该成为被原谅的理由?
许多问题经由Diane被展现给观众,但魅力之处就在于这部剧永远不会给你对错或者答案。
上一季原生家庭创伤也是遗留给了观众自己思考。
E02里Diane去了越南旅游,给自己列了十条去越南旅游的原因,或者是去寻根,或者是可以放纵,摆脱原来的生活。
可在最亲近的异乡中,她仍感觉到了这十个原因只是借口。
而
E03与E04对于Todd无性恋的恋爱问题和Hollywoo男性凝视问题分别进行了更深层次的探讨,同时在E03中BoJeck鼓励与自己拍戏的女一号Gina大胆的去实现自己的歌星梦,虽然最后以Gina的破音失败告终,但两人的感情线持续升温,紧扣着剧情的发展。
E05的双时间线叙事完整了P.C的性格成因与对待婚姻的观念,也为后面的剧情埋下了重要的伏笔。
而再看一遍E06之后,也才终于明白为什么会是神作了。
BoJack在母亲Beatrice的葬礼上二十分钟的独白,内容输出不只密集,还环环相扣。
他说,在他陪伴Beatrice走过最后的那几天,Beatrice对他说过的最后一句话是I see you,他不明白这句话到底是什么意思。
母亲一生都在责怪他,挖苦他,他怨恨他的家庭,怨恨父亲的自负与母亲的刻薄,怨恨家庭无休止的争吵,但他同样意识到了其实父母和他一样,都是在生活中溺水的人(马),对于溺水的人而言,能得到那一口空气的喘息是那么美好。
或许Beatrice说的那一句I see you想表达的,是她在临终前,终于看见了这一生同样在挣扎的BoJack。
不是的BoJack,其实Beatrice早知道她对你造成了太多的伤害,所以她曾经才会对你说,你生来就支离破碎。
当BoJack在追溯自己前半生的家庭鲜有的美好回忆后,他或许原谅了Beatrice,至少他心软了。
可当他突然反应过来母亲说的那句I see you,只不过是在读ICU的牌子时,他又变回了那匹尖酸刻薄的马。
他说:我妈妈死了,我得到的只有免费的油条。
E07与E08依旧保持着高水准,E07的双线叙事就已经够看了,E08的四线交错叙事简直不要太精彩。
不得不说花生酱先生在本季有了一点点改变,与Diane离婚让他开始反思恋爱中自己的不足与婚姻。
四条时间线平行推进,以每年一度的万圣节派对为背景,以相似的结局收场,对于我这种老粉来说,各式各样的彩蛋比所想表达的问题更吸引我。
算是对老粉的一种回馈吧。
E09与E10开始将剧情带入了后半段,聚焦的问题变少了,人物的矛盾开始进入白热化阶段。
BoJack因为E05中P.C暂时离开剧组的原因,在拍戏时从五楼摔下,住院期间医生给他开的止疼药使他产生了依赖性。
E09中他对药物的依赖性逐渐强烈,不惜将自己的车撞向别人的车制造车祸,以此来换得止疼药(其实严格上说是换取心中对于滥用药物的过意不去)。
而E10在新戏《Philbert》首映会大获成功后,戏中角色的脆弱性被人们喜爱上,Diane作为该剧的编剧之一,她认为坏人的脆弱不应该是他被人原谅的筹码。
这种在她眼里不好的导向使得她在首映会中与BoJack大吵一架。
BoJack认为在往季里他所有做过的烂事里,他也是一个受害者。
他带着内心的愧疚痛苦的活着,甚至认为他才是最痛苦的那个人。
而Diane根本无法理喻,她提到了因为BoJack死去的Sara Lynn,BoJack无言以对。
虽然最后这场争吵不欢而散,但Diane还是觉得BoJack有救。
其实Diane这么愤怒,不仅仅有E12里她的上司所说的用过高的标准要求自己与身边的所有人,还有Diane始终保持着自我否定。
她将这种自我否定代入了BoJack的身上,在骂他的时候同样在发泄内心里那个很矛盾的自己。
E11中,因为滥用药物,且剧本塑造的Philbert形象与自己过于相似,BoJack已经马戏不分,在一次次拍戏的过程与自己的生活搞混后,拍戏时他死死地掐着Gina的脖子,以为剧中的生活就是现实世界,以至于导演喊卡都没有松手,差点将Gina掐死。
最后BoJack意识到了问题所在,登向那个虚幻的楼梯,看着漂浮着空中巨大的Philbert气球,失去了那段记忆。
抛开剧情来说,这一集的手法可以说是成人童话题材里教科书级别的。
说是神作也不为过。
在对BoJack精神层面的剖析上会比S1E11里更直白。
可能因为有些悲伤是遥远且相似的,而身在其中的我没有办法去解读这一集结构上有什么诟病或者牛逼之处。
只是看完好像和S3E11一样,胸口一闷,千言万语如鲠在喉。
E12交代完其它角色在本季中的最终走向后,最后时间给到了Diane和BoJack。
为了治疗药物成瘾,Diane陪BoJack来到了戒毒所门口。
分别时BoJack问,为什么你对我这么好,明明我做了那么多让你伤心的事。
Diane说了她高二时期被朋友背叛的事情。
她说,我恨她,她拿我当初告诉她的秘密来攻击我,我没有办法原谅她。
可是,当她的妈妈重病时,我去陪她了。
因为她曾经是我最好的朋友而她需要我。
Diane一直想塑造自己是一个有原则,有态度的人,她想靠自己的力量保护自己,可这段话就是打开了自己心防,可以看出她其实没有真的讨厌BoJeck,只是她不知道怎么去面对自己。
就像那句话说的。
我想变得更好,却不知道该怎么做。
这句话可以说是这一季丧的主题了,因为不仅仅是用作Diane与BoJack身上,而可以用在任何一个角色身上。
就连最快乐的花生酱先生也不例外。
可是最丧的真的只有这样吗,反观整季所有角色,想起了那个差点被掐死的Gina。
在没有《Philbert》这部剧之前,她一直都默默无闻的演着配角,习惯了不将情感带到戏中。
可她这一次喜欢上了BoJack,也因此差点死于这匹男马之手。
片场的人将那段视频流向大众时,公关危机随之到来,失去那段记忆的BoJack看了自己差点掐死Gina的视频后,想对媒体说出真相,那就是一次人身攻击,而不是演戏,想以此得到对自我的宽慰或者弥补Gina,而Gina对BoJack说,我不管你有什么病,但我不允许你毁了这部剧,这部剧使我第一次对人生感到希望,我不想我的后半生别人提起了我只想到我身上有你的烙印。
这时候我才意识到,原来不只是“我想变得更好,却不知道该怎么做”的人丧,就连“我想变得更好,也知道该怎么做”的人也很丧。
最后还是想聊聊那个老生常谈的话题,上一季被放大,这一季被淡化的原生家庭创伤。
E06谈到的原生家庭或许更多的偏向是疗愈和原谅,所以不想也不敢对神集过分解读。
真正让我有所感触的是,E05里小时候的P.C。
我也曾是在B站弹幕里陪着P.C度过她孤独的生日并真诚的希望她生日快乐的人,她是所有人里最值得被爱的。
S4E11里对于Beatrice的家庭创伤阴影和所带给下一代的这种典型的家庭文化传播已经演绎得淋漓尽致,似乎BoJack Horseman里每个ZOE都有一个不完美的童年。
(那两个失散多年的兄妹最后没有相认其实更像是编剧为了想表达性格悲观不是因为原生家庭创伤引起的)所以当P.C回忆起她的童年时,我就很诧异给这个强势不服输的Zelda安排一段不怎么美好的回忆到底想干嘛。
我重看了S4E11后似乎找到了答案。
原来我一开始就理解错了。
S4并不是想放大原生家庭创伤,而是想弱化它,或转变大家对于这件事的看法,只是用了比较极端的表达手法。
BoJack Horseman提出原生家庭创伤背后的本质,不是希望人们将悲伤或对现实世界的不满归咎于它,把我脆弱我悲伤全都怪罪于原生家庭创伤,而是希望大家向前看,忘记那些悲伤,因为当你陷入其中,对你的下一代可能会产生一个循环。
就像P.C最后拒绝了母亲让她再留下一年陪她的请求,毅然决然地走了。
迎接她的是未来生活的希望,是成为女飞行员Amelia Earhart的梦想,而不是过去的伤痛。
所以,BoJack Horseman到底在丧什么?
这个问题的答案,或许有些人眼里是面对生活的无助与绝望,仍旧要强颜欢笑,或许是生而为人我很抱歉,或许有些人眼里只是杞人忧天。
找到共鸣都不是这部剧的本意,只愿你想要变得更好。
老话一句:阳光风趣外向的Zelda一生都要学习如何体会别人,而敏感刻薄内向的Zoe一生都要学习如何放过自己。
最后,恭喜BoJack Horseman第六季正式续订期待下次再见。
(学英语用)音频Yes, yes, I see you. Get in. Get in.Your mother is having another one of her episodes. Last night, she went to seeA Doll’s Housewith a couple girlfriends, and now she has ideas. I emerged from my sanctum this afternoon to discover that not only had she not made me lunch, which is a meal I need in order to live, but she’d, furthermore, locked herself in the bedroom to weep. Loudly.Now it’s one thing for a woman to weep, but when they do it at such a volume you can hear it through the door, that’s when you know that they’re doing it just for the attention.Anyway, I was able to cobble together a sandwich for myself, so I’m the real hero of the story.[horn honking][tires screeching]It was a couple hours later when I realized I was on a good run with my novel. I had this really interesting sentence that kept going for pages and pages, and I thought about how rare it is to really get in the groove like that; how most days, I can’t concentrate because my idiot child is blasting the television and it suddenly dawned on me—hot cock on a rock, she never even picked up the little noise and snot factory![tires screech, horn honking]So, here I am, being your mother, which I know is giving you all sorts of mixed-up ideas about gender, while your brain is still loose and stupid. Just remember, if you become a queer later in life, this isn’t my fault! Don’t you sing no songs in your nightclub act called, “My Daddy was My Mommy,” while gazing longingly at a tangled string of pearls. Pearls are for ladies, BoJack. Pearls are for ladies.You know Sunday is my writing day. Sundays are the one day that are just for me and my craft, and still, you and the black hole that birthed you conspire to ruin it for me. What am I supposed to do now? Just go back to writing? I’m out of the zone now, the whole day’s shot! All because of you and that brittle wisp of a woman you made the mistake of making your mother.[sighs]No. It’s not her fault. She’s doing the best she can, after all. It’s just that… you can’t depend on women. You can’t depend on anyone. Sooner or later, you need to learn that no one else is gonna take care of you. That’s what I learned when I had to make my own sandwich. You can’t rely on other people, BoJack. It’s good for you to know that. And she’s a good mother for teaching you that. You’ve got a head start on most kids. You’re actually very lucky.[music continues over radio]Thaaaaank youuuuu?———So I stopped at a Jack in the Box on the way here, and the girl behind the counter said, “Hiya! Are you having an awesome day?” Not, “How are you doing today?” No. “Are you having anawesomeday?” Which is pretty… shitty, because it puts the onus on me to disagree with her, like if I’m not having an“awesome day,”suddenly I’m the negative one.Usually when people ask how I’m doing, the real answer is I’m doing shitty, but I can’t say I’m doing shitty because I don’t even have a good reason to be doing shitty. So if I say, “I’m doing shitty,” then they say, “Why? What’s wrong?” And I have to be like, “I don’t know, all of it?” So instead, when people ask how I’m doing, I usually say, “I am doingsogreat.”But when this girl at the Jack in the Box asked me if I was having an awesome day, I thought, “Well, today I’m actually allowed to feel shitty.” Today I have a good reason, so I said to her, “Well, my mom died,” and she immediately burst into tears. So nowIhave to comforther, which is annoying, and meanwhile, there’s a line of people forming behind me who are all giving me these real judgy looks because I made the Jack in the Box girl cry. And she’s bawling, and she’s saying, “I’m sorry, I’m so sorry,” and I’m like, “It’sfine. It’s fine.” I mean, it’s notfinebut, you know, it’s… fine. And I would like to order a Double Jack Meal, and I’ve kinda got somewhere to be, so maybe less with the crying and more with the frying, huh? [inhales] And the girl apologizes again and she offers me a free churro with my meal. And as I’m leaving, I think, “I just got a free churro because my mom died.” No one ever tells you that when your mom dies, you get a free churro.[people murmuring][clears throat]Anyway, I’m sorry, that’s not part of the… [clears throat] All right. Okay, here we go. Let’s do this. Here I am, BoJack Horseman, doing a eulogy, let’s go. Hey, piano man, can I get a, like an organ flourish? [organ plays] Nicely done. You know, I was a little worried I wouldn’t have the right accompaniment today. I guess it’s a good thing my mom was anorgandonor! [rimshot plays] What happened to the organ? [horn ‘oogahs’] Okay, why just leave the comedy to the professionals? Okay? This is a funeral, sir, for my mother. Can you show a little respect? [trumpet whines] I’ll take it.Beatrice Horseman, who was she? What was her deal? Well, she was a horse. Uh, she was born in 1938. She died in 2018. One time, she went to a parade, and one time, she smoked anentire cigarettein one long inhale. I watched her do it. Truly a remarkable woman.[rustling]Lived a full life, that lady. Just, all the way to the end, which is, uh, now I guess. Really makes you think, though, huh? Life, right? Goes by, stuff happens. Then you die. Okay, well that’s my time, you’ve been great! Tip your waitress! No, I’m just kidding around, there’s no waitress. But seriously, that’s all I have to say about my mother. No point beating a dead horse, right? So…[inhales] Now what? I don’t know. Mom, you got any ideas? Anything? Mom? No? Nothing to contribute? Knock once if you’re proud of me.Can I just say how amazing it is to be in a room with my mother, and I can just talk and talk without her telling me to shut up and make her a drink? Hey, Mom, knock once if you think I should shut up. No? You sure? I mean, I don’t want to embarrass you by making thiseulogy into a me-logy, so, seriously, if you wanted me to sit down and let someone else talk, just knock. I will not be offended. No? Your funeral.Sorry about the closed casket, by the way. She wanted an open casket, but uh, you know, she’s dead now, so who cares what she wanted? No, that sounds bad. I’m sorry. I-I think that if she could’ve seen what she looked like dead, she’d agree it’s better this way. She looked like this.[groaning][mourners gasping]Kinda like a pissed-off toy dinosaur. The coroner couldn’t get her eyes closed, so now her face is forever frozen in a mask of tremendous horror and anguish. Or as my mom called it, Tuesday! Tuesday! My mom called it Tuesday.[woman coughs]Hey, Mom, what did you think of that joke? You like that? You never did care for my comedy.[clears throat]Here’s a story. When I was a teenager, I performed a comedy routine for my high school talent show. There was this, uh, cool jacket that I wanted to wear because I thought it would make me look like Albert Brooks. For months, I saved up for this jacket. But when I finally had enough, I went to the store and it was gone. They had just sold it to someone else. So, I went home and I told my mother, and she said, “Let that be a lesson. That’s the good that comes from wanting things.” She was really good at dispensing life lessons that always seemed to circle back to everything being my fault.But then, on the day of the talent show, my mother had a surprise for me. She had bought me the jacket. Even though she didn’t know how to say it, I know this meant that she loved me.Now that’s a good story about my mother. It’s not true, but it’s a good story, right? I stole it from an episode ofMaudeI saw when I was a kid, where she talks about her father. I remember when I saw it, thinking, “That’s the kind of story I want to tell about my parents when they die.” But I don’t have any stories like that. All I know about being good, I learned from TV. And in TV, flawed characters are constantly showing people they care with these surprising grand gestures. And I think that part of me still believes that’s what love is. But in real life, the big gesture isn’t enough. You need to be consistent, you need to be dependably good. You can’t just screw everything up and then take a boat out into the ocean to save your best friend, or solve a mystery, and fly to Kansas. You need to do it every day, which isso… hard.When you’re a kid, you convince yourself that maybe the grand gesture could be enough, that even though your parents aren’t what you need them to be over and over andoveragain, at any moment, theymightsurprise you with something… wonderful. I kept waiting for that, the proof that even though my mother was a hard woman, deep down, she loved me and cared about me and wanted me to know that I made her life a little bit brighter. Even now, I find myself waiting.Hey, Mom, knock once if you love me and care about me and want me to know I made your life a little bit brighter.[owl chirping]My mother did not gogentleinto that good night. She went clawing and fighting and thrashing, hence the face.[groaning][mourners gasping]If you’d seen her, I swear to God the only thing you’d be thinking about right now is that I amnailingthis impression.[woman clears her throat][chairs squeak]I was in the hospital with her those last moments, and they were truly horrifying, full of nonsencial screams and cries, but there was this moment, this one instant of strange calm, where she looked in my direction and said, “I see you.” That’s the last thing she said to me. “I see you.” Not a statement of judgment or disappointment, just acceptance and the simple recognition of another person in a room. “Hello there. You are a person. And I see you.”Let me tell you, it’s a weird thing to feel at 54 years old, that for the first time in your life your mother sees you. It’s an odd realization that that’s the thing you’ve been missing, the only thing you wanted all along, to be seen. And it doesn’t feel like a relief, to finally be seen. It feelsmean, like, “Oh, it turns out that you knew what I wanted, and you waited until the very last moment to give it to me.” I was prepared for more cruelty. I was sure that she would get in one final zinger about how I let her down, and about how I was fat and stupid and too tall to be an effective Lindy-hopper. How I was needy and a burden and an embarrassment—all that I was ready for. I was not ready for“I see you.”Only my mother would be lousy enough to swipe me with a moment of connection on her way out.Butmaybe I’m giving her too much credit. Maybe it wasn’t about connection. Maybe it was a… maybe it was an “I see you,” like, uh, “I see you.” Like, “You might have the rest of the world fooled, but I know exactly who you are.”That’smore my mom’s speed.Or maybe she just literally meant “I see you. You are an object that has entered my field of vision.” She was pretty out of it at the end, so maybe it’s dumb to try to attribute it to anything.[woman sighs]Back in the 90s, I was in a very famous TV show calledHorsin’ Around.[man coughs]Please hold your applause. And I remember one time, a fan asked me, “Hey, um, you know that episode where the horse has to give Ethan a pep talk after Ethan finds out his crush only asked him to the dance because her friends were having a dorkiest date contest? In all the shots of the horse, you can see a paper coffee cup on the kitchen counter, but in the shots of Ethan, the coffee cup’s missing. Was that because the show was making a statement about the fluctuant subjectivity of memory and how even two people can experience the same moment in entirely different ways?” And I didn’t have the heart to be, like, “No, man, some crew guy just left their coffee cup in the shot.” So instead, I was, like… “Yeah.”And maybe this is like that coffee cup. Maybe we’re dumb to try to pin significance onto every little thing. Maybe when someone says, “I see you,” it just means, “I see you.” Then again, it’s possible she wasn’t even talking to me because, if I’m being honest, she wasn’t really looking at me. She was looking just past me. There was nobody else in the room, so I want to think she was talking to me, but, honestly, she was so far gone at that point, who knows what she was seeing? Who were you talking to, Mom? [sighs] Not saying, huh? Staying mum? No rimshot there? God, whatever I’m paying you, it’s too much.Maybe she saw my dad. My dad died about ten years ago of injuries he sustained during a duel. When your father dies, you ask yourself a lot of questions. Questions like, “Wait, did you say he died in aduel?” and “Who dies in aduel?” The whole thing was so stupid. Dad spent his entire life writing this book, but he couldn’t get any stores to carry it or any newspapers to review it. Finally, I guess this one newspaper thought he was pretty hilarious, because they ran a review and tore him to shreds. So my father, ever the proud Mary, decided he would not stand for this besmirchment of his honor. He claimed the critic didn’t understand what it meant to be a man, so he demanded satisfaction in the form of pistols at dawn. He wrote the paper this letter, saying anyone who didn’t like his book, he would challenge to a duel, anyone in the world. He’d even pay for airfare to San Francisco and a night in a hotel. Well, eventually this found its way to some kook in Montana, who was as batshit as he was and took him up on the offer. They met at Golden Gate Park and agreed: ten paces, then shoot. But in the middle of the ten paces, Dad turned to ask the guy if he’d actually read the book and what he thought, but, not looking where he was going, tripped over an exposed root and bashed his head on a rock.[murmur]I wish I’d known to go to Jack in the Box then. Maybe I could have gotten a free churro. It would’ve been nice to have something to show for being the son of Butterscotch Horseman. My darling mother gave the eulogy. My entire life I never heard her say a kind word toorabout my father, but at his funeral she said, “My husband is dead, and everything is worse now.”“My husband is dead, and everything is worse now.” I don’t know why she said that. Maybe she felt like that’s the kind of thing you’re supposed to say at a funeral. Maybe she hoped one day someone would say that about her. “My mother is dead, and everything is worse now.” Or maybe she knew that he had frittered away all her inheritance, and replaced it with crippling debt, which is a pretty shitty thing to leave your widow with. “Bad news, you lost a husband, but don’t worry, you also lost the house!” Maybe Mom knew she’d have to sell all her fancy jewelry and move into a home. Maybe that’s what she meant by “everything is worse now.” Is that what you meant, Mom?I gotta say, I’m really carrying this double act. At least with Penn and Teller, the quiet one does card tricks. Hey, piano man, when I say something funny to my mom, how about you give me one of those rimshots?[rimshot plays]Yeah, but not now. When I say something funny. Like, okay. What’s the difference between my mother and a disruptive expulsion of germs? One’s a coughin’ fit and the other fits a coffin! That’s an example of a funny thing.[rimshot plays]Thank you. Let’s try again. Hey, Mom. What’s the difference between my mother and a bunch of Easter eggs? One gets carried in a basket, the other gets buried in a casket![rimshot plays]Ready for one more? Last one. What’s the difference between a first-year lit major and my mother, Beatrice Horseman? One is decently read, and the other’s a huge bitch![woman gasps][murmurs]Yeah, might have gone a little too far with that one. That one might’ve been a little too “my mom’s a huge bitch” for the room. I’m sorry, Mother. You’re not a huge bitch. Youwerea huge bitch… and now you’re dead.[woman sighs]You know, the first time I ever performed in front of an audience, it actually was, uh, with my mom. She used to put on these shows with her supper club in the living room and she used to make… [inhales] She used to make me sing “The Lollipop Song.”[organ playing tune]Those parties, they were really something. There were skits and magic acts, and ethnically insensitive vaudeville routines, and thebigfinale was always a dance my mother did. She had this beautiful dress that she only brought out for these parties, and she did this incredible number. It was so beautiful and sad. Dad hated the parties. He’d lock himself in the study, and bang on the walls for us to keep it down, but he always came out to see Mom dance. He’d linger in the doorway, scotch in hand, and watch in awe, as this cynical, despicable woman he married… took flight. And as a child who was completely terrified of both my parents, I was always aware that this moment of grace, it meant something. We understood each other in a way. Me and my mom and my dad, as screwed up as we all were, we did understand each other. My mother, she knew what it’s like to feel your entire life like you’re drowning, with the exception of these moments, these very rare, brief instances, in which you suddenly remember… you can swim.[flashback][partygoers laughing][classical music playing]But then again, mostly not. Mostly you’re drowning. She understood that, too. And she recognized that I understood it. And Dad. All three of us were drowning, and we didn’t know how to save each other, but there was an understanding that we were all drowning together. And I would like to think that that’s what she meant when we were in the hospital and she said, “I see you.”You know, the weird thing about both your parents being dead is it means that you’re next. I mean, you know, obviously it’s not like there’s a waitlist for dying. Any one of us could get run over by a Snapchatting teen at any moment. And you would think that knowing that would make us more adventurous, and kind, and forgiving. But it makes us small, and stupid, and petty.I actually had a near-death experience recently. A stunt went bad and I fell off a building. I’m an actor, I do my own stunts. I’m on this new show Philbert. I’m Philbert. Star of the show. It hasn’t come out yet, but it’s already getting Emmy buzz. Oh, speaking of buzz… [inhales] I’m supposed to take two of these every morning, but my days are so screwed up ‘cause of the shooting schedule, I don’t even know what morning means anymore. There’s a joke in there somewhere, about a guy who’s been to so many funerals, he doesn’t even know what mourning means anymore. Let you guys figure that one out for yourselves. [gulps]Anyway, you know what I thought, when I was falling off the building and I went into panic mode? The last thing that my stupid brain could come up with before I died? “Won’t they be sorry.” Cool thought, brain.[rimshot plays]No, that wasn’t… would you just… dial it back, all right?I don’t even know what“they”I wanted to be sorry. My mom, even before she died, could barely remember who I was. And of course, my dad’s dead. The last conversation I ever had with him was about his novel. He was so certain this book was his legacy. Maybe he thought it would vindicate him for all the shitty things he ever did in his stupid worthless life. Maybe it did, I don’t know. I never read it, because why would I give him that?I used to be on this TV show calledHorsin’ Around. Seriously, though, hold your applause.[man coughs]Well held. It was written by my friend Herb Kazzaz, who’s also dead now, and it starred this little girl named Sarah Lynn. And it was about these orphans. And early on, the network had a note, “Maybe don’t mention they’re orphans so much, because audiences tend to find orphans sad and not relatable.” But I never thought that the orphans were sad. I-I always thought they were lucky, because they could imagine their parents to be anything they wanted. They had something to long for.Anyway, we did this one season finale, where Olivia’s birth mother comes to town. And she was a junkie, but she’s gotten herself cleaned up, and she wants to be in Olivia’s life again. And of course, she’s like a perfect grown-up version of Olivia, and they go to the mall together and get her ears pierced like she’s always wanted and—sorry, spoiler alert for the season six finale ofHorsin’ Around, if you’re still working your way through it. Anyway, the horse tries to warn her, “Be careful, moms have a way of letting you down.” But Olivia just thinks the horse is jealous, and when the mom says she’s moving to California, Olivia decides to go with her. And the network really juiced the cliffhanger: “Is Olivia gone for good?” But of course, because it’s a TV show, she was not gone for good. Of course, because it’s a TV show, Olivia’s mother had a relapse and had to go back to rehab, so Olivia had to hitchhike all the way home, getting rides from Mr. T, Alf, and the cast ofStomp. Of course, that’s what happened. Because, what are you gonna do, just not have Olivia on the show? You can’t have happy endings in sitcoms, not really, because, if everyone’s happy, the show would be over, and above all else, the show… has to keep going. There’s always more show. And you can callHorsin’ Arounddumb, or bad, or unrealistic, but there is nothing more realistic than that. You never get a happy ending, ‘cause there’s always more show.I guess until there isn’t.[chuckles]My mom would hate it if she knew that I spent so much time at her funeral talking about my old TV show. Or maybe she’d think it was funny that her idiot son couldn’t even do this right. Who knows? She left no instructions for what she wanted me to say. All I know is she wanted an open casket, and her idiot son couldn’t even do that right. I’m not gonna stand up here and pretend I ever understood how to please that woman, even though so much of my life has been wasted in vain attempts to figure it out. But I keep going back to that moment in the ICU when she looked at me, and… “I-C-U.”“I… see… you.” Jesus Christ, we were in the intensive care unit. She was just reading a sign. My mom died and all I got was this free churro.You know the shittiest thing about all of this? Is when that stranger behind the counter gave me that free churro, that small act of kindness showed more compassion than my mother gave me her entire goddamn life. Like, how hard is it to do something nice for a person? This woman at the Jack in the Box didn’t even know me. I’m your son! All I had was you! [inhales]I have this friend. And right around when I first met her, her dad died, and I actually went with her to the funeral. And months later, she told me that she didn’t understand why she was still upset, because she never even liked her father. It made sense to me, because I went through the same thing when my dad died. And I’m going through the same thing now. You know what it’s like? It’s like that showBecker, you know, with Ted Danson? I watched the entire run of that show, hoping that it would get better, and it never did. It had all the right pieces, but it just—it couldn’t put them together. And when it got canceled, I was really bummed out, not because I liked the show, but because I knew it could be so much better, and now it never would be. And that’s what losing a parent is like. It’s likeBecker.Suddenly, you realize you’ll never have the good relationship you wanted, and as long as they were alive, even though you’d never admit it, part of you, the stupidest goddamn part of you, was still holding on to that chance. And you didn’t even realize it until that chance went away.My mother is dead, and everything is worse now, because now I know I will never have a mother who looks at me from across a room and says, “BoJack Horseman, I see you.” But I guess it’s good to know. It’s good to know that there is nobody looking out for me, that there never was, and there never will be. No, it’s good to know that I am the only one that I can depend on. And I know that now and it’s good. It’s good that I know that. So… it’s good my mother is dead.[gulps, sighs]Well. No point beating a dead horse. Beatrice Horseman was born in 1938, and she died in 2018, and I have no idea… what she wanted. Unless she just wanted what we all want… to be seen.Is this Funeral Parlor B?
昨天看完了第五季,没敢再继续往下看这部剧中曾经总出现在社交媒体截图中的金句并没有给我留下太多印象,倒是一些黑白颠倒不知所云的包袱让我哈哈大笑。
开始我最喜欢Mr. Peanutbutter,出生在拉布拉多岛,无论给恋人还是朋友都能带来满满的爱,每次Diane神经质的时候都鼓励她包容她,每次Todd乱七八糟的点子被群嘲之后他都是唯一一个不吝赞美并且一起合伙的人。
这样的Mr.Peanubutter也让我觉得戴安是个很幸运的人,尽管在恋爱关系中她总是表现出逃避,刻薄,没有安全感,总是拒人于千里之外。
PC是我看到后面才喜欢上的。
剧里她几乎没有哭过,无论是面对所有人推过来的烂摊子还是自己被男人被家人伤害,PC都是只深深地叹一声气,然后就大包大揽像女超人一样Handle所有的事情,被Bojack赶走车上放着“just driving girl dont turn around”她还是一个油门杀回餐厅去救场。
深夜一个人站在窗前谢谢手机说的生日快乐,只有这时候她才显得有点寂寞,她每次深深地叹气都让我心疼。
第五季花了更多的时间讲过去的故事,花生酱如何和每一任妻子在一起然后离婚,PC是如何从帮做女佣的妈妈干活开始不知不觉变成了一个无法克制地帮所有人擦屁股的角色,BJ的父母如何陷入错误婚姻的泥沼BJ如何在这羞辱和争吵中长大成人。
离婚之后花生酱又飞快热烈地爱上了小自己二十岁的Pickle,戴安一个人去了越南仍没有像期望的那样“逃离生活并与自己和解”;而Bojack当了那么久的混蛋,这次那么小心翼翼想要珍惜的人,他还是搞砸了一如既往地伤害了别人,不仅仅是因为毒瘾。
刚开始看第一季我第一次听到那句“You are born broken”只觉得做作,大家不过都是普普通通平平凡凡有闪光点也有黑暗面的人(或者动物)而已,有三两朋友,甚至剧里很多人都事业有成,所谓的broken不过是一时堕落的借口庸人自扰。
看到最后一集戴安陪Bojack去戒毒所之后一边抽烟一边开车离开,我才明白最令人难过的是,每个人可能都走不出自己的那个怪圈,可能是因为性格,可能是命运的安排,不自知,或者自知却无能为力。
We are all just guys.. who do good stuff sometimes and bad stuff sometimes.And all we can do is try to do less bad stuff and more good stuff,but you"re never going be good.Because you're not bad.当一直站在道德制高点严格约束自己和别人的Diane在某一天做了一件令自己都恶心的事的时候,她终于意识到,没有绝对的好人,也没有完全的坏人。
她不能理解自己怎么能做出一件如此违背自己道德底线的事,她甚至把自己描述成"a garbage fire" "a rudderless buring large garbage barge"。
但是她还是带着这种内疚恶心和PB又做了一次。
终于她发现了自己也不过就是个普通的人,也会犯错,也会明知故犯,也会屡教不改。
又或许这些错误只有自己耿耿于怀,压根没人想了解想深究,甚至未曾有人注意。
所以在BJ要她写文章揭发自己的时候,她才会说出那一番“反戴安”式的言论。
看起来是在劝说BJ,其实也是在说给自己听吧。
Whatever you put in that story,no one is gonna "hold you accountable"."You need to take responsibility for yourself." 她对自己说。
其实BJ说的没错,他俩的境况都差不多。
都很糟,但又没有那么糟。
她不再站在高处去指责BJ,跟在BJ屁股后面去逐个列出他的种种混蛋行为。
她甚至可以接受BJ“仍然糟糕只是变得清醒了一点”因为这时她大概明白了,一直以来她和BJ都是差不多的。
也许,她就是BJ。
分割线在等待第六季的过程中把第五季又重温了一下,这次是打开弹幕看的,我才发现原来Diane是一个如此有争议的角色。
大家可以清楚的定义Bojack是混蛋,PB是看起来暖但其实是不顾及他人感受的不成熟傻狗,PC是独立强大的事业型女强人,而Todd是个脑洞奇葩的小天使。
但关于Diane 的评论总是褒贬不一的。
有人觉得她是个十足的女权婊,也有人觉得她是全剧最清醒的,有人觉得她只是假正义其实自己也是一个混蛋,也有人觉得她只是思想很前卫,不理解她很正常。
要知道,人是矛盾综合体,这世界上没有绝对的好人和坏人,每个人身上都存在着让人温暖闪光点和让人无法想象的丑恶之处。
这世界,并不是非黑即白的,哪怕是一头大熊猫,哪怕是一匹斑马😆不必非要给一个人打上“好人”和“坏人”这种超明确的标签,谁又能保证自己一生没干过任何恶心人的事呢。
💅🏻参与这场关于“如何定义Diane”的激烈辩论赛的各位,不如稍安勿躁,让我们静静等待第六季吧。
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以下剧情概述系一路剧透到底,阅览请慎重。
看完全剧又做完概述,才发现本剧主创在故事中安排的合理因素和草蛇灰线是多么的惊人,这也恰恰是国产剧最不足的地方个人心目中最精彩的几集标题已加粗S05E01 The light Bulb Scene波杰克的新连续剧“Philbert”开拍了,但是他总是对于剧情本身的走向有很多疑问,现场的设计也跟他家很像,所以一直骚扰导演Flip。
作为一贯的BoJack,他在片场跟他对戏的女主角Gina搞在了一处,与此同时他对于本剧物化女性的投诉让导演头疼万分,导演决定与其让他拍摄去Club给脱衣女郎画素描,不如像泰坦尼克号里一样让他给女主角画素描,而这一点也让女主角非常不爽。
于是BoJack继续与导演抗争,导演恼羞成怒,做了一段一段‘你只是在寻求别人对你的关注’的评述后,决定让BoJack拍一段360度裸体拧灯泡,这样就不是物化女性而是物化男性了卡洛琳公主终于下定决心准备领养,她去领养经理人处登记了自己的信息陶德跟无性恋现女友尤兰达、前女友以及前女友的现男友消防员一起double date。
陶德发现自己与现女友除了性特征一样以外都不一样,现女友嫌他没工作没面子,于是陶德出门找工作应聘清洁工,顺利成为该公司广告业务总监(可以这很陶德)S05E02 The Dog Day are Over戴安在离婚后跟花生酱先生一起去餐厅吃饭,花生酱在餐厅搭讪了新女友酸黄瓜。
戴安去BoJack家聊天却无法解除自己的难过(在这个过程中她听到BoJack讲到了关于新墨西哥的故事,但只是开了个头)于是去换了发型衣着。
当戴安去参加花生酱先生的派对,看到他亲别的女人于是情感崩溃,逃到了越南,并写了一篇‘10个去越南理由最拽女生游记’的文章。
在越南她遇见了一个美国小鹰(伙),假装语言不通两人发展出一段如同‘西贡小姐’的爱情故事,却在对方识破她会说英语后破裂。
她最终还是回到了美国,和花生酱先生走完了协议离婚的签字流程S05E03 Planned Obsolescence陶德跟无性恋女友尤兰达去见父母,却要一起伪装成有性恋,因为尤兰达一家都非常的性活跃。
两人花了不少力气伪装,最后尤兰达终于在情势之下在家人面前坦诚自己是无性恋,家人接受了但陶德却提出了分手花生酱先生的新女友酸黄瓜接到建议,决定和花生酱先生take it slow慢慢来,却在去野外观测空间站销毁的路上彼此逐渐打开心扉吉娜和BoJack搬到了一起,却不保持情感关系。
她从小想要演唱音乐剧的理想被BoJack发现,BoJack为她安排了面试但结果不好,吉娜最终放弃了自己的这个理想。
S05E04 BoJack the Feminist卡洛琳公主要问BoJack的新剧找一个男配角,找来了充满暴力史和道歉史的Vice。
媒体却无风起浪,传播BoJack和新来的Vice不合,为了澄清,BoJack上了早餐秀,但是他的发言却被进一步曲解成女权主义和对Vice的抨击,这一点也让Vice和剧组彻底决裂,Vice同时宣传连续剧的剧情充满了物化女性。
为解决这个问题,卡洛琳公主邀请了戴安来包装BoJack并加入剧组成为编剧,又邀请花生酱先生出演本剧的男配角花生酱先生想打造更加强硬的个人性格特征,每一次的强硬却被当成是善良而非强硬的举动,这让他和来帮忙的陶德苦恼万分S05E05 The Amelia Earhart Story卡洛琳公主从小崇拜Amelia Earhart,第一个女性飞行员(她在之后每年的万圣节派对上都装扮成Amelia Earhart,真是骨灰粉)。
她回到北卡老家去见自己准备领养的孩子的母亲,这个过程中她不断想起自己小时候的故事。
她和这个年轻单身母亲一样,不慎怀孕。
不同的是对方的家庭准备接受她和孩子(如果大家还记得的话,一如BoJack的父母的故事,只是男女角色互换),但是突如其来的流产让她刚刚说服自己接受的计划也无法继续,最终她决定追求自己的梦想去了UCLA,但是离开母亲是她心中永远的伤痛波杰克拍特技不慎从房顶跌落摔伤了背,医生给他开了很多止疼片S05E06 Free Churro波杰克在自己母亲的葬礼上致辞(这一集太过神,轻易的解构是对本季最大的不敬,大家还是自己看吧。
片头到片尾就是波杰克的独白,至于为什么叫这个题目,致辞里有)S05E07 INT.SUB本集的故事讲述方式很有趣,是戴安的心理医生和陶德公司的调解专员约会,两个人互相讲述自己工作中遇到的故事。
两条线互相穿插还有交集BoJack母亲去世,却不断封闭自己,让戴安很苦恼,所以戴安在心理医生的建议下决定与BoJack保持距离。
花生酱先生同样发现了自己父母去世却愿意打开自己与他人交流,对比之下让BoJack更加不爽。
BoJack去找戴安的心理医生理论却建立了联系,戴安发现后告诉BoJack自己希望独占这个心理医生(以获得心理上的满足),BoJack却继续私下见心理医生并把医生当成朋友。
但戴安生气的决定不再见这个医生后,BoJack却也逃离了这个医生,他只是需要戴安的注意卡洛琳公主和陶德对于谁吃了冰箱里最后一根奶酪条起了争执……连续剧的导演Flip写作上遇到了困难,戴安挺身而出帮助他写了新的剧情发展,却将BoJack饰演的Philbert这个角色写的无比像BoJack本人(考虑到戴安是BoJack的自传撰稿人,这个说法真是无比的合理)S05E08 Mr Peanutbutter`s Boos本集一样很神,其精彩程度超出了我语言的描述能力。
主要讲述了花生酱先生先后带三位前妻和一位现任女友去BoJack家开万圣节排队的故事。
四条时间线用相同的进度推进,彰显了花生酱先生不断地犯着同一个错误,而戴安是那个清醒的把问题指出的人故事同样讲述了陶德如何来到BoJack家开始沙发客的生活,直指S01E01。
故事也蜻蜓点水的展示了卡洛琳公主和BoJack在好莱坞这25年的变化S05E09 Ancient HistoryBoJack的妹妹Holly在大学假期决定来LA看BoJack,却陷入了对上一季BoJack母亲给她下药的环境恐惧中,销毁了BoJack所有治疗背痛的止痛药。
于是BoJack带着妹妹在深夜的LA四处历险找地方买止痛药却没能买到。
Holly质疑BoJack是真的需要药物还是对止痛药上瘾,BoJack为了继续获得止痛药主动创造了车祸陶德的前女友回来向他诉苦,现男友跟她之间只有性关系没有情感交流。
陶德为了赢回前女友,制造了一个性爱机器人,希望以此赢回前女友的心卡洛琳公主找前男友拉尔夫谈生意,紧急接到领养中心的电话去医院见一个孕妇,拉尔夫提出两人复合却惨遭拒绝。
最后领养没能成功,卡洛琳公主一个人孤独的回家S05E10 Head in the Clouds众人的新剧philbert获得巨大成功,将要举行首映礼。
首映礼上酸黄瓜并不喜欢本剧,先行离开。
BoJack在首映礼后与戴安陷入争吵,认为自己才是自己所有行为的最终受害人,戴安愤怒的提出死去的萨拉琳,BoJack恼羞成怒,表示自己这样丧下去挺好,戴安却说自己对他仍抱有希望。
BoJack最后解释了新墨西哥事件,戴安却对BoJack身上的黑暗异常失望,选择离开。
花生酱先生送戴安回家并留宿陶德带着性爱机器人去上班,机器人却意外成为了他们公司的CEOS05E11The ShowstopperPhilbert大获成功后众人连忙开始拍摄第二季,BoJack却由于角色与自己过于相像,加上自己身上的烂摊子过大和持续增长的对止痛药的上瘾,开始无法分清剧情和现实,压力之下不断的失眠并加大了药物摄入的剂量。
随着拍摄中Philbert的破案,他也认为现实生活中所有人都要对他不利,要把连续剧中的角色和他混为一谈并将他毁掉,而他唯一应该做的就是保护Gina(唉,这是BoJack第一次这样为他人着想,虽然后来……)Gina在同居生活中发现了BoJack药物成瘾,想要扔掉药物却遭到BoJack的暴力对待。
随着Philbert的故事揭晓,杀人犯正是Philbert自己,出演Philbert的BoJack沉浸于角色中,在拍摄时险些掐死GinaS05E12 The Stopped Show花生酱先生和戴安坦白自己还喜欢她,并决定跟酸黄瓜分手。
在分手现场却无法承受传递坏消息的压力,最终向酸黄瓜求婚陶德的性爱机器人CEO被下属举报性骚扰,公司受创被迫大举裁员,性爱机器人和陶德也都被开除,陶德最终毁掉了机器人并脱下西装回到了自己由于BoJack险些掐死Gina,现场被工作人员拍成视频传到网上,剧组被迫公关。
BoJack药物服用过度,已经不记得自己做了什么,看完视频后悔万分,希望找Gina原谅却遭拒绝。
两人顺利完成的公关采访解除了剧组的危机,却彼此劳燕分飞。
BoJack希望忏悔,找到戴安希望曝光自己,戴安告知如果他希望改变,最好的办法就是去戒毒中心待上6周。
两人在戒毒中心门口挥手道别以上剧情简述均系我自行概括,如有遗漏敬请谅解,转载请获得授权
Do not go gentle into that good night .E02采用交叉叙述的方式讲述Diane寻找身份认同之旅。
是个小标题变幻不同的发饰,体现时空的不同,最终引导出生活并不会因为在哪里而改变,除非自己扛过去,接受生活。
我的观感是混乱的。
这种交叉叙述没有加强身份寻找的意义与深度,反而显得很无所谓,很混乱。
这份剪辑上的混乱倒是体现了Diane在身份认同上的迷茫。
在出了E08 Mr.Peanutbutter 万圣节party交叉叙事那一集,完全可以说E02是试水之作,表达形式与表达内容分离的太开。
Todd与性爱机器人间的关系并没有展现很深的父子羁绊。
性爱机器人是Todd的一次构想,是错误领会满足他人需求的构想。
和其他Todd项目是偶然的产物。
这个设定没问题,但是展开就很奇怪了。
Todd带机器人去公司,是出于Todd自身的人物缺陷——错误领会别人的需求。
接下来性爱机器人展开的故事更多是讽刺精英与资本运营制度。
Todd在采访中露了一面,像皇帝新衣里的小孩指出这一切都是谎言,性爱机器人只是字面意义上的性爱机器人。
(我好奇的是Todd把机器人拉出垃圾桶时并没有想到机器人的语言只是提前录好的字面意义上的录好的语言。
)然后在女权的兴起下,公司关门了。
这时导演还不忘讽刺一把资本运营,让一串大公司组合的名字的老总给性爱机器人一张名片。
在性爱机器人贯穿的几个剧集里完全没有聚焦Todd与性爱机器人父子关系的事件啊!
那么结尾让性爱机器人仓促地喊出“爸爸我爱你”,实在没什么感动的地方,相反矫情的很。
这种矫情的不舒服还来自Todd和Yolanda分手的“百年”约定。
我想说的是,剧集是生活的提炼,不是生活的再现。
一百年后再结婚的分手话跟现实渣男也太像了吧!!!
我们先不讨论Yolanda是什么物种,作为Todd的人类真的能活到一百岁吗?
这不就是渣男分手时说的那种等怎么怎么样,我会来找你。
等朝鲜半岛统一,我再来找你。
等美国实现共产主义,我再来找你。
等太阳打西边出来,我再来找你。
Fuck!
许一个扯淡的诺言,然后拜拜,这绝对是导演经历过的人生再现。
越是深情款款说着不着四六的话,越是虚伪。
哪怕说五年之后,在第十季重新出现这个角色都可以。
一百年?
恐怕这部剧马上撑不住了,所以许下个虚无缥缈的诺言。
最最最最最最最让我失望的角色—— Mr.Peanutbutter .几乎喊出:FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!的这种失望。
片头曲我最喜欢的一幕是马男掉进泳池往上看,一个是 Diane另一个就是Mr.Peanutbutter。
Diane是马男的镜面, Mr.Peanutbutter 完完全全是马男的反面。
Mr.Peanutbutter 是什么的存在?
永远的开心果,永远的孩子。
所以他才是一个忠狗的形象,一高兴就吐舌头竖耳朵,完全不掩饰自己的喜好,完全不在乎别人的眼光,小孩子的形象。
在一部丧句里,我是说,马男、Diane都是悲观现实的人物形象,需要Todd和 Mr.Peanutbutter 这样的人物补充一下,调解口味。
首先,我承认E08这集在叙事上拍的确实好,交待了人物关系缘起,加深了人物羁绊,循环往复的插叙突出了问题,拍出了前三季的丧味儿。
问题是,解决问题的是Mr.Peanutbutter,人物形象发生转变的也是 Mr.Peanutbutter 。
之前说了, Mr.Peanutbutter 是小孩子形象,这是他的优点,也是他的缺陷,所有的笑料都来自于他永远乐观的精神。
现在他乐观的精神转向马男悲观的模样,理想的小孩长大了,这是背叛!
背叛观众的情感!
剧集是生活的提炼,不是再现。
马男提炼出我们丧的一面, Mr.Peanutbutter 展现出我们向往的乐观精神,永远活力,永远玩闹。
看到 Mr.Peanutbutter 我们就想起小时候的那些时光,简单、快乐、富有趣味,没有那么多的勾心斗角,没有那么多的争名夺利,即便 Mr.Peanutbutter 严肃起来,也不用担心,他只是虚张声势,下一刻马上会吐出舌头笑哈哈。
现在剧集让 Mr.Peanutbutter 长大了。
卧槽,难道我们生活中经历的背叛还不少吗?
曾经趴在土里一起弹弹子球的伙伴,现在西服革履,一年也见不上一回;曾经在闷热的网吧里衣衫劲头还大呼小叫打CS的同学,不知何时变得低眉顺眼,一说话总是和声细语;曾经一起拉手去厕所的小姐妹,现在约出来喝奶茶都没空,要在家奶孩子;是不是该结婚了?
是不是该生孩子了?
二胎要了吗?
我们的现实生活已经被压的喘不过气来,但是永远快乐的 Mr.Peanutbutter 仿佛曾经的玩伴,带着天真又充满活力的笑容出现,热爱party,热爱与人为善,是我们曾经拥有又现在羡慕的无忧无虑的生活。
结果呢?
他开始长大了?
变得跟我们有什么区别?!
他开始像成年人一样思考了,艹!
这些思考留给我们成年人就好了啊,不用你 Mr.Peanutbutter 来思考啊!
保持你的单纯和乐观啊!
但是 Mr.Peanutbutter 并没有,他开始觉得party吵闹了,他出轨了,他撒谎了,他的人设转变了,他的人设崩了,这部剧崩了。
And it breaks my heart, again...after my heart was so broken that I thoughtit could never get any more broken.I thought it was safe,but it still, somehow, finds a new way to break.Because, even though, I'am the one who asked for this,now that I've got it, I am completely adriftwith no compass, or map, or sense of where to go, or what to do.So I go to Nanjing.I think I might find community, a connection to something bigger,but... I don't.In fact, I feel even more alone than I was before I left.But... I survive.I learn that I can survive being alone.I'm really happy for you
依着我对这剧的喜欢,其实是没法客观的去说的。
他们已经远不是角色了,他们是活生生的人,《登堂入室》里吉尔曼老师说:“文学会教给我们生命的一切。
”而吉尔曼老师的妻子对他说:“你知道这都是瞎扯淡,文学什么也不能教给我们。
”文学当然不能教给我们生命的一切,电影也不能。
电影终究是电影,故事也只是故事,阿尔弗雷多对多多说:“生活比电影苦多了。
”艺术能带给我们的只有对生命认知的启迪,对自我,对他人,对世界的思考。
我们终于可以用另一种眼光去感受世界,去探索自我。
很高兴在这几年里认识了他们。
戴安就是我最喜欢的那类女孩,敢于追求自我,无论是否被人们看作异类,愤世嫉俗,永不妥协。
花生酱先生是我羡慕着又讨厌着的人,他注定人人都爱,收获着快乐又单纯的一生。
波杰克是最复杂,最让我有同感,也最不愿意去接触的人,不幸的家庭让波杰克终将孤独,没有人会真的爱他,没有人在了解他后会真的喜欢他,说到底他是一个混蛋但也好像不止于此。
卡洛琳公主是最值得被爱的女强人,不依靠任何人,自己守护着自己。
他们是我的朋友,他们早已经融入我的生活,早已经是我的一部分。
因为戴安,我不去在乎很多事又去坚守着另一些事。
因为波杰克,我去认真思考我的人生。
这些人没有教给我生活的一切,但是他们就在那里,告诉你一切都不算太糟一切也都太糟了,他们相爱,好像生活就注定像焦糖玛奇朵,他们憎恨,就像生活只是一杯苦涩的让人头晕的啤酒。
不过…戴安还有波杰克,凯洛琳公主也领养了小baby,波杰克走入戒毒所……And as you know life is…just life…
重刷马男,第五季给我感触可以称得上最大?
等再看一遍第六季也许又会变了,但至少目前是这样。
分人物讲讲吧。
戴安和花生酱先生离婚那一段可以说是我记得非常清楚的了,去越南,看见花生酱和酸黄瓜接吻,戴安在车上的大哭,不同地区变换而同样的孤独,“我不知道为什么我让一切变得那么糟糕。
”她和花生酱先生之间并不是不爱所以离婚,而是不合适,我想这更痛苦吧。
她待在越南的酒店换上旗袍戴上草帽的那个场面我记得很清楚。
第五季的戴安可以说是“脆弱”“边缘”,真的很需要心理医生纾解,问题太多了。
花生酱先生其实是我最喜欢的角色,和卡洛琳公主一样。
这季讲了花生酱先生的四段婚姻,戴安说“你一直在和二十多岁的女孩子恋爱”。
每一段婚姻都是最青春的十年,然后女孩长大了,但花生酱先生仍旧还是二十多岁的样子。
永远活力,被人喜爱,所有人的好朋友。
第二季还是第三季里花生酱和戴安说,你不在家的时候我大部分时间都在发呆,转来转去然后等你回来。
你是我的全世界那种感觉真的很让人动容,他爱人就是全心全意然后付出自己一切,绕着你疯狂转然后给你惊喜的那种感觉,每一任一开始应该都很喜欢,花生酱先生一直以来也就是想要大家都喜欢他,爱他。
但后来,生活哪来那么多阳春白雪,真是一地鸡毛,不善于倾听应该是他最大的缺陷了。
戴安和花生酱做了之后,花生酱也是说要和戴安复合,酸黄瓜是个好女孩。
这个被戴安驳回了,他们的确不适合在一起,但我还是觉得花生酱在四个婚姻里最爱的是戴安,就像是他之前说的,我还爱着戴安,从没忘记过。
很可惜,真的很可惜。
然后是卡洛琳公主,和男友分手(猫和老鼠恋爱阻碍太多,也错过了),事业受挫,选择领养之后一直奔走,犹大离开之后她也变得更忙更忙了,这季讲了卡洛琳公主的过去,流产五次,第一次是和那个狐狸(这段真的很有感触),猫妈送的项链是不值钱的货,但是给她很大勇气,上飞机之前猫妈说的再等一年被卡洛琳拒绝那里,拉尔夫想复合被拒绝那里,真想为她欢呼,她值得最好的,不要停滞于此啊!
陶德本季做了主管,和无性恋女友短暂在一起又分手,两个人除了都是无性恋之外没有任何共同之处,约定一百岁你未婚我未嫁就再试试看,真是他的作风。
不过话说回来陶德真的能力太强,工作都很厉害,满脑子点子而且单纯且专一,简历也无敌。
他是一个奉献式的角色,也是全剧的金手指和“单纯”担当吧,其实蛮希望他能和艾米丽在一起的,做了sex机器人结果变成自己boss,很讽刺的处理,最后陶德在自己的秘密基地毁掉机器人,“i love you ,father”,很犯规。
然后陶德把西装撕掉,里面是自己的红卫衣运动裤,在夕阳中离去。
很感动很感动。
吉娜,不知为何我觉得她其实应该是做了一个“救赎”的角色,至少这一季是他的稻草之一。
马男在杀青后还了解她的一切,为了偷药跑去人家家里告白?
为她争取唱歌的机会,希望自己能帮助吉娜。
送礼物,精神混乱之后在聚光灯下两个人接吻,同居,吉娜在受伤后每天去看他。
马男说“她在我身边这让我感觉很好”“我要保护吉娜”的时候能感觉真挺在乎的,但是伤害她的也是他,很糟糕。
最后是马男,马男在这一季里要讲的真的太多太多了。
前几季的事情叠加起来在这季开始逐渐达到峰值而且逐渐转化。
第六集波杰克的独白可以说是全季神集,很有局外人开头的感觉,我妈妈死了所以我得到了免费油条,不断提起的i see you和最后才发觉的icu,我妈妈死了所以一切变得更糟了,因为你知道有些事情本来可以变好但是已经没机会了,最后开棺发现走错了葬礼厅,和第三季我最喜欢的那集海底世界有异曲同工之妙,糊掉的道歉纸条,走错的葬礼,马男的一生其实都好像在不停的犯错,后悔,和错过。
父母的死亡彻底结束了他一直想要得到的亲情和认可,某种意义上不是解脱,反而让他更脆弱。
想得到赞同,得到支持和喜欢,想被看见,所以稀里糊涂做女权主义者,想改变自己而尝试戒酒戒毒,然后还是在暴走,瘾之间做错更多的事情。
上一季多出来的妹妹让他稍微好了一点,吉娜的陪伴让他又好了一点,但做错的事太多太多了。
菲尔伯特的拍摄,现实和剧情不断交叠的几集做得非常非常好,波杰克说:“被波杰克做错事伤害最深的人就是我自己”,他一直在堕落中挣扎又堕落,想改变但一切都为时已晚。
恐慌一切都会被发现,恐慌身边人的离开,他想要原谅自己,但这其实也是错的,因为不敢直视错误,就像是戴安说的,菲尔伯特不是让你感觉自己不错,而是让你认清自己的错误,就像是枪支电影那里制片人说的,为什么现实里总有这么多枪支案阻止我们美化枪击。
影视人物的错不是为了让你感觉自我良好,每个人都会犯错的。
多个人物堆积推动导致波杰克特效出事,然后住院以另一种方式药物上瘾,然后逐渐严重,甚至让我感觉比前几季更严重,他答应霍莉霍克会照顾好自己,但犯瘾后主动开车撞出事然后继续住院,嗑药达到巅峰,精神脆弱没有治疗加上入戏,分不清片场和现实,最后导致伤害吉娜,这个他想要保护的女孩。
正如所言,再次搞砸了,这次是完完全全的。
因为是二刷所以对很多地方感触不同了,马男每一季或多或少都有改过之心,但总有东西推动搞砸,想放逐自己去墨西哥然后差点和初恋的女儿酿成大祸,想和帮自己奥斯卡的经理人在一起然后over,想和萨拉琳重新来过然后间接导致萨拉琳死亡,想自杀然后看见奔跑的马群,想拍好骄马结果全部变成特效,想保护吉娜然后变成伤害她的人。
记得很清楚第三季安娜说的救生员故事,有人不可以救,因为他会拉着你共沉沦。
马男似乎就是这样一个角色,或者说剧里像是戴安,甚至花生酱都在说这个事,为什么我总是把事情搞砸?
而这一季尾马男想要找戴安把所有事坦白,但被拒绝,然后被戴安送到戒毒所。
即使说出来也没有任何意义,你需要改变自己。
故事以马男和戴安在戒毒所门前的见面告终。
或许第一次看我会想“会变好吗?
”但我是重刷,所以我知道,只会更糟糕。
生活就是一系列简单悲剧的复杂重合,堕落太简单,但要赎罪无比艰难。
应该说每个人的悲剧都不是独一的,而是无数悲剧叠加产生的。
马男波杰克中一个重点也是“原生家庭”,马男,戴安,萨拉琳,卡洛琳公主等的原生家庭都给他们造成了很大影响,而往上父母的悲剧也来自祖辈,都绝不是说“我要改变”就可以重新来过的,但还是要继续,要和“错误”切断关系,继续走下去。
其实不太清楚马男给我的影响是好还是坏比较多,第一次看完时丧了很长一段时间,二刷也是一直在思考,但还是那句话吧,在虚拟世界寻找真实的人脑子一定有问题,如果我一直执着要在这里扣出点加油的鸡汤,那还不如去看很多励志片。
此外,本季提到的女权,上一季的政治,污点人物复出,以及大量的不同人物生活和故事描写,都给我很深的思考,马男之后要何去何从呢?
答案其实再清楚不过了。
还是要说菲尔伯特那段做得太巧妙,他可能也很想把自己和做错事的自己剔除开,就像是臆想出的搭档,但最后,毁掉自己的还是自己。
很喜欢这一季的海报,那个庞大的飞在空中的马男气球,和仰头看着气球的波杰克。
气球就像是以往的所有错事,紧紧的跟随着他,脆弱,巨大且一触即发。
累了 毁灭吧 btw 如果还有第十季 我要看he 我不管 我岁数大了 不想一直看丧的
一个人的成长大概是五年后,受的伤越来越多,于是从讨厌Diane变成了理解Diane吧。每一季都会把属于pc的那一集刷三遍以上。等了一年,居然一天就看完了,失落
生活像一坨屎,或许真的需要自我拯救
(这次很敬业地看完马上二刷了)Eulogy/Melogy这集太好看了(特别重看了S4后 The past is coming back to haunt everyone (actually maybe just Peanutbutter, the past has been haunting Bojack et al all along) PB终于不只是happy了 Ralph真滴好好啊 其实PC和Diane另一方面想都hold onto所谓无谓的坚持(maybe)
一颗星都不想看恶心看见有人用这个头像我直接拉黑
有些桥段见得多了,也就不再觉得意外。平实在之中我更希望能看到用很平凡的话说出很扎心的道理
不知为啥觉得有点看不下去,最后两集才稍微有点感触,第11集的歌舞想到了爱乐之城,12集🐎居然去戒毒了,有点吃惊。不过这季的戴安剪短发好看呀!十万个为什么要去越南道理233
not impressive enough这一季看了好多马男磕药的镜头,gross.
看过两集,这类黑色幽默不喜。
Too much rambling now
当你犯了天大的错,再也无法回头,你还能怎么去弥补。
Bojack和Diane互相拥有彼此是幸运的,可以在残破的生活中抓住最后的那点希望,不论自己过得多么烂,还有一个朋友可以倾诉,哪怕解决不了什么问题,就是能聊出来也是好的。马男每一季都有神集出现,太强了。
没有前几季好看,2018看完第六集以后拖了好久2020才看完后半段,追完第六季才意识到第五季一直没看完。
第六集神作。关于父母那段太好太好 …
经历了前几季的大起大落,再也编不出发人深省的金玉良言,在想象力枯竭、人设塌陷与审美疲劳的边缘,磕磕绊绊走完。506是全季唯一的惊喜,整集是一场高水准脱口秀,虽然以独白形式呈现,但仍然保留了完整的戏剧元素与叙事手法,总算没有让我白白期待。这段独白不仅在技巧上突出,也在人物塑造上让Bojack丧的彻底,丧的真实,这本是魅力所在。可惜Diane——怀揣道德优越感为他人指点迷津的伪善编剧代言人,一边以Bojack的知心朋友代言,一边恶毒地用Bojack为原型改写剧本逼疯Bojack;一边让Bojack变着花样无底线的丧硬硬地拖了4季,一边变身广电谴责戏中戏不应当为丧开脱美化颓废。编剧实在挖掘不出矛盾,把Diane也写疯了。这口毒鸡汤毕竟奶了五年,早死早超生
有点看不下去……
最后一幕PC领走了一位刺猬baby。纵观全剧,最像刺猬的就是戴安,她明明做出了传销书,有一位爱她且多金的老公,可这一切都不是她内心最需要的,所谓的意义性、正义感、生命真谛…没有人理解她、甚至看到后面很多人因为她的浑身带刺而讨厌这位人设。如果马男是因为原生家庭一直做傻事,那戴安则是生命的第二阶,为了寻找目前自身也不知道的制高点一直打破外人看起来幸福的局面…
突然没了资源,讲真并没有成“神剧”。
没必要拍这么多季。
角色们对自我进行剖析、告白,是《马男》一贯对于观众最具吸引力的“丧之情绪点”。当盯着屏幕上看他人的脆弱、无助,以及带着些许自嘲语气说着“让我想起还没被生活拖垮的自己”,便是能够感到“走心”的时刻。如此的“一贯”成了“惯性”,也就不能怪这个系列在走向第五个年头的时候产生颓势。但至少,它还是能用精准、犀利的剧作来映射我们看似日常实则已伤痕累累的生活,并在最后多少给人一些“生活总要继续向前”的抚慰。